Connecting to internet radio station

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Connecting to internet radio station

Postby Shels_LTATMRadio » Wed May 06, 2020 11:10 pm

Hi Everyone,

I am a newbie here, I just learned about Voicemeeter in a facebook group for Streamyard. What I want to do is connect Streamyard with the help of Voicemeeter to my internet radio station on Live365. I hope this board can help me, I have all i need but connecting to my radio station. Once I figure this out, I can do a test run on.

Thanks,
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Re: Connecting to internet radio station

Postby xcasxcursex » Fri May 08, 2020 7:49 am

I'm not really sure what streamyard or live365 do, could you explain it to a dummy? As in, what are you trying to do with you audio? Capture it from one place and send it to another?

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Re: Connecting to internet radio station

Postby Shels_LTATMRadio » Fri May 08, 2020 5:07 pm

HI xcasxcursex,

First off, You are not a dummy. We are all learning new and different things together.

It is easier for me to link the pages to each of them: this is https://streamyard.com/ and this is live365: https://live365.com/. I do a live broadcast / podcast called Lets Talk About The Music and I had WAY to much independent musicians that I wasn't able to play all of them, so I been back to college to build a radio station and it is called LTATM Radio.

What I want to do is broadcast live through Streamyard as a streaming video "podcast" and stream at the same time through my own radio station on live365, with the help of Voicemeeter. I will have my icecast installed be this weekend that will be connected to B.U.T.T.

Have a listen to my radio station: LTATM Radio https://live365.com/station/LTATMRadio-Home-of-independent-a59611

I hope this helps
Thanks,
Shels
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Re: Connecting to internet radio station

Postby xcasxcursex » Fri May 08, 2020 11:59 pm

Ahh I see, now , thanks :)

OK so if I've got this right.... what you want to do here is set up voicemeeter so that your various audio sources (your mic, music you are playing, soundbites, etc) go into voicemeeter, where they get mixed, and then they come out via a virtual audio device, then use the virtual audio device as an input (like a microphone/line-in) to streamyard to stream to your video podcast service, and also to (whatever app you use to stream to) live365 (what app is that? Does streamyard simultaneously output to whatever video service you're using (what video service is that?) and also to live365 for audio-only? Or are you streaming video from streamyard and audio-only from some other app?)....

...Is that right?

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Re: Connecting to internet radio station

Postby Shels_LTATMRadio » Sun May 10, 2020 5:42 pm

Hi,

Sorry it took me a moment to get back to you, the notification that I have set to let me know I got a new message went into my spam folder.

yes that is correct! Live365 did get back to me and they stated,
what I see you might be able to use it as audio source to an encoder Like Butt encoder or RocketBroadcaster. After which you can set the Butt encoder to stream to Live365 server very easy. Does all your sound go via VoiceMeeter? The audio tracks as well?


Which I did apply to them, yes.... if voicemeeter CAN connect to through BUTT with the help of Icecast, where would I put? Or is there something that I can do that as nothing to do with Icecast or BUTT.

Thanks for your help,
Shels
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Re: Connecting to internet radio station

Postby xcasxcursex » Mon May 11, 2020 4:15 am

Don't worry mate I don't use notifications, just manually check the pages, so I guess I need to return the apology for being delayed ;)

Well there are two ways to think about this. On the one hand, you could try to take the audio and feed it to two applications, one to encode it for each streaming service. The other is to encode the audio and video and stream both video and audio to one service, and only audio to the other. They both have advantages and disadvantages. If you use separate encoders, you will be able to have different encodings for each service. However, you will be encoding the audio twice, so it will increase your CPU load. If your hardware is capable of encoding twice, then it will probably be easier to setup.

So let's go with that for now.... It's pretty easy. You setup your media player(s) to output audio to the Voicemeeter VAIO device. You set your microphone as the input to one of VM's hardware input tracks. You click the 'B1' button on the VM interface, on both of those channels in VM. This outputs the mix of them to the Voicemeeter VAIO device (Buss 1 in the mixer). You can adjust the mix as desired, in voicemeeter (eg adding compression to your mic, setting levels, EQ, etc). Then you use the VM VAIO device as the audio source in your encoding applications. Since this is the browser in the case of streamyard, you will need to go into windows' audio settings, and use that to set VM VAIO as the input to the browser (or, you can set it as the default recording device for all apps). A standalone app such as BUTT will allow you to select that input directly within the app.

That's it!

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Re: Connecting to internet radio station

Postby Shels_LTATMRadio » Thu May 14, 2020 2:19 am

HI xcasxcursex,

I think we are on the right path with this mission. I got an email back from Live365 and this is what they said:

You will need to download and install Butt encoder on the computer you have your VoiceMeeter connected to. Here is a short article for Butt: Using BUTT (Broadcast Using This Tool) with Live365
After you set it up you go to it's settings=> Audio. And you should be able to select the VoiceMeeter as audio source there. Please test it out and let me know if it is visible.


Then I reached out to my instructor, he is an engineer at my college radio stations, this is what he said;

If you're using BUTT, that's the final piece that streams to whoever is distributing your stream. Voicemeeter would be your audio mixer feeding BUTT. VM would take your mic inputs, etc and whatever's playing out your MusicMaster playlist, and feed that to BUTT.

So, only BUTT is connected to your icecast hosting server. Usually, MusicMaster sends it's 'playlist' to a separate playout/automation system like SAM, Zara, etc. but if it plays out itself, that's a start.


Then my friend who is my techie on my radio station, who is also helping me with this...

You -> hard mixer - Voicemeeter -> BUTT -> Icecast -> Internet


So with ALL of use together, BUTT is the answer to all of this... I am going to try to connect this weekend, I am not sure when I will try it, but that is my goal. I would try it do it now, but I am currently working on my radio stations database to place it onto MusicMaster before June. I got a LOT Of music!! I will touch base with you next week to let you know how it goes... :D
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Re: Connecting to internet radio station

Postby Shels_LTATMRadio » Sun May 17, 2020 12:28 am

So we are officially stuck... NOW my mixing board was working on Voicemeeter and now it is now... anyway, this is what Dennis my techie says. he is also waiting for enter into the forum.


Here's what we've got. We have a Behringer 1204 USB board and we're trying to get this talking to VM Banana. So far, the mic registers on the board -but does not register in Voicemeeter. Default we've been using is called '4- USB Audio CODEC" and I'm not sure that this is the right thing. After that the next step is to connect Voicemeeter to BUTT.

The virtual cables are in place, but we're a little unsure on how to make these work with everything.

At this point, we have Butt talking to Live365 - and that's it.

For Voicemeeter, the the closest we've come is getting the mic built into the laptop she's using to talk to the input. But that's really it.

Long and short, we're stuck.
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Re: Connecting to internet radio station

Postby Shels_LTATMRadio » Sun May 17, 2020 6:01 pm

ok, UPDATE:

I got everything connected, Mixing board, Voicemeeter, thanks to a youtube video. I watched the video frame by frame. I notice I was missing the visual cable, so I went and bought it. Then connect it to voicemeeter.

Then, I watched another one on how to connect it to BUTT onto LIVE365. It all works find, but something is going on with my audio. When i connected to my station, I just got deadair. So I am missing something...

I did email he gentlemen on the video that I first watched to get his help and let Live365 know of this update too.

however, I am almost there.
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