Hello, newbie here! (Ducking enhancements)

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DdV
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Hello, newbie here! (Ducking enhancements)

Postby DdV » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:31 pm

Hey guys,

Only been playing with Potato for 24h now and it is already my new favourite audio software!

I did, however, find the ducker example in the manual a little aggressive in the way it just cuts rather than fades, so I wrote a few commands to bring it down at three 60ms intervals rather than cut 15db straight. Seems to work really well and much better and more configurable than autoduckers you get in programs like RadioPlayoutONE, which are completely as you find them.

Been busy integrating RP1 and Potato into my previously analogue workflow and all is going well with minimal latency. Shame i only do one show a month but the experience has been great for teaching my 14yo about DAWs, codecs, latency, etc.

Anyway, I'm waffling. Great to be on board and have a happy new Year everyone!

Best,

DdV

Ps. Anyone tried the Behringer UHD1820? Looking to completely ditch my analogue desk and, if the quality of VB software so far is to go by then I'm sold! Just need to find the RIGHT (not expensive) I/o with as many bus channels as I can get!
Last edited by DdV on Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:35 pm, edited 2 times in total.

DdV
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Re: Hello, newbie here!

Postby DdV » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:38 pm

And if anyone cares what my rig looks like right now...
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Hence why I need a simple workflow! Lol

JBP
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Re: Hello, newbie here!

Postby JBP » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:33 pm

Welcome :!:

Sorry, but I think it would be better to update your thread title.

So, please don't get me wrong.
I don't want to be rude.
But a thread title "Hello, here I am!" is like "Hello, I have a problem!".
Please, give us some kind of information in the title!

Imagine everyone new to this board would open a thread to say:"Hello, here I am!".

The title of the thread could refer to your enhanced ducking settings.
This way other users could benefit from your knowledge.

DdV
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Re: Hello, newbie here!

Postby DdV » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:34 pm

Yeah, I'll take that.

Edit: have done! :) I'll post up my settings in a bit but on my phone right now.

JBP
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Re: Hello, newbie here! (Ducking enhancements)

Postby JBP » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:45 pm

Perfect :!: :D

DdV
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Re: Hello, newbie here! (Ducking enhancements)

Postby DdV » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:57 pm

So here is what I have been trying out with the Ducker and gives a FAR more natural approach. I *may* duck my own vocals to only -12db as I have quite a boomy voice but I think -15db suit most cases.

I also didn't see any benefit in tweaking the midrange too much, so this change is a minimal -2 per stage.

The release is quicker, at only two stages. Again, this feels more natural given I played with a 1000ms recovery (I may shorten this to 750 though).

Note I have the mic on Ch1 (Strip0) and Skype on Ch7 (Strip6) - neither of those track should be ducked and are excluded from this marco...

#TRIGGER IN
Strip(1).fadeto = (-5,60);
Strip(1).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(2).fadeto = (-5,60);
Strip(2).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(3).fadeto = (-5,60);
Strip(3).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(4).fadeto = (-5,60);
Strip(4).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(5).fadeto = (-5,60);
Strip(5).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(7).fadeto = (-5,60);
Strip(7).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(1).fadeto = (-5,60);
Strip(1).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(2).fadeto = (-5,60);
Strip(2).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(3).fadeto = (-5,60);
Strip(3).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(4).fadeto = (-5,60);
Strip(4).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(5).fadeto = (-5,60);
Strip(5).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(7).fadeto = (-5,60);
Strip(7).EQGain2 = -6.0;

Strip(1).fadeto = (-10,120);
Strip(1).EQGain2 = -8.0;
Strip(2).fadeto = (-10,120);
Strip(2).EQGain2 = -8.0;
Strip(3).fadeto = (10,120);
Strip(3).EQGain2 = -8.0;
Strip(4).fadeto = (-10,120);
Strip(4).EQGain2 = -8.0;
Strip(5).fadeto = (-10,120);
Strip(5).EQGain2 = -8.0;
Strip(7).fadeto = (-10,120);
Strip(7).EQGain2 = -8.0;
Strip(1).fadeto = (-10,120);
Strip(1).EQGain2 = -8.0;
Strip(2).fadeto = (-10,120);
Strip(2).EQGain2 = -8.0;
Strip(3).fadeto = (-10,120);
Strip(3).EQGain2 = -8.0;
Strip(4).fadeto = (-10,120);
Strip(4).EQGain2 = -8.0;
Strip(5).fadeto = (-10,120);
Strip(5).EQGain2 = -8.0;
Strip(7).fadeto = (-10,120);
Strip(7).EQGain2 = -8.0;

Strip(1).fadeto = (-15,180);
Strip(1).EQGain2 = -10.0;
Strip(2).fadeto = (-15,180);
Strip(2).EQGain2 = -10.0;
Strip(3).fadeto = (-15,180);
Strip(3).EQGain2 = -10.0;
Strip(4).fadeto = (-15,180);
Strip(4).EQGain2 = -10.0;
Strip(5).fadeto = (-15,180);
Strip(5).EQGain2 = -10.0;
Strip(7).fadeto = (-15,180);
Strip(7).EQGain2 = -10.0;
Strip(1).fadeto = (-15,180);
Strip(1).EQGain2 = -10.0;
Strip(2).fadeto = (-15,180);
Strip(2).EQGain2 = -10.0;
Strip(3).fadeto = (-15,180);
Strip(3).EQGain2 = -10.0;
Strip(4).fadeto = (-15,180);
Strip(4).EQGain2 = -10.0;
Strip(5).fadeto = (-15,180);
Strip(5).EQGain2 = -10.0;
Strip(7).fadeto = (-15,180);
Strip(7).EQGain2 = -10.0;

#TRIGGER OUT (note: Much quick to fade out)
Strip(1).fadeto = (-5.0,100);
Strip(1).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(2).fadeto = (-5.0,100);
Strip(2).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(3).fadeto = (-5.0,100);
Strip(3).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(4).fadeto = (-5.0,100);
Strip(4).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(5).fadeto = (-5.0,100);
Strip(5).EQGain2 = -6.0;
Strip(7).fadeto = (-5.0,100);
Strip(7).EQGain2 = -6.0;

Strip(1).fadeto = (0.0,200);
Strip(1).EQGain2 = -0.0;
Strip(2).fadeto = (0.0,200);
Strip(2).EQGain2 = -0.0;
Strip(3).fadeto = (0.0,200);
Strip(3).EQGain2 = -0.0;
Strip(4).fadeto = (0.0,200);
Strip(4).EQGain2 = -0.0;
Strip(5).fadeto = (0.0,200);
Strip(5).EQGain2 = -0.0;
Strip(7).fadeto = (0.0,200);
Strip(7).EQGain2 = -0.0;

DdV
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Re: Hello, newbie here! (Ducking enhancements)

Postby DdV » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:06 pm

Please bear in mind I am new to VB-Potato and have had to make some assumptions about the scripting language; it seems to work for me but I'd appreciate any feedback if I got something wrong. :)

Vincent Burel
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Re: Hello, newbie here! (Ducking enhancements)

Postby Vincent Burel » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:47 am

All seems to be ok if it works as you want...
nice setup by the way (it sounds like you are already in an audio bath :-)


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