Matrix intergration with Voicemeeter

[TheOldXMusicman]

I'm totally new to Matrix but I've been using Voicemeeter for years. I'm really not sure if I really need Martix to be honest, but I wanted to try it out. My current setup using Voicemeeter works fine. I use Voicemeeter on two PC's. Banana on my house PC and Potato on my ham radio PC. I use VBAN to receive and send audio between the two PC's. I tried today to put fit Matrix into the mix on my Home PC and I was somewhat successful. I did get it setup so that everything worked without Voicemeeter running. The problem with that setup was that I had no convenient way to control audio volume on the different in's and out's. When I tried to add Voicemeeter in I started getting bad latency. I'm sure it was probable because I did something wrong, but I haven't had any luck finding any write-ups or videos on how to integrate Matrix and Voicemeeter together. Both PC's are less than a year old Dell Optiplex, i7, 8core, 3Ghz, 32GB Ram, SSD drives, W11Pro. Anyone have any suggestions? TIA!