Weird lisp/tin can sound

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PoJ
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Weird lisp/tin can sound

Post by PoJ »

Hello, new user here.
I recently started using VM Banana while streaming on Twitch and I noticed that the sound is kinda weird. I've added 2 clips as an example, I hope someone can shed some light on this problem.

https://clips.twitch.tv/BadPlainButterJonCarnage
https://clips.twitch.tv/BadKitschyFungusBloodTrail

https://imgur.com/a/7TvAPk9

Kind regards PoJ
RobBoss
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Re: Weird lisp/tin can sound

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Sounds like phasing.

What Bus output channel configuration do you use?
Please, show me a screenshot of your Voicemeeter settings!

Somehow the audio signal on the channels is doubled.
Something of your settings sends the signal two times (with minimal delay).
Maybe only a portion of a millisecond!
And that leads to this phasing effect.

There is definetly something wrong with your audio routing (one activation of an extra audio routing option too much).
Deactivate one option after the other step by step to identify the source of doubled routing in your chain!


This phasing happens for example also if you press a key of a hardware synthesizer when it is connected to a DAW and if the DAW sends the MIDI data that it is receiving on the MIDI input to the MIDI output (MIDI thru) back to the MIDI input of the synthesizer.
Then the tonegenerator of the synthesizer is triggered by the pressed key plus the incoming MIDI data and every note you play is doubled and you here the same odd phasing effect.
To avoid this every synthesizer or keyboard has an option that is called 'Local Off'.
'Local Off' means that the tonegenerator ignores any pressed key and only plays notes by external MIDI data.
PoJ
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Re: Weird lisp/tin can sound

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Thanks for your reply, I posted my settings in the Imgur link in the first post.
RobBoss
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Re: Weird lisp/tin can sound

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PoJ wrote:Thanks for your reply, I posted my settings in the Imgur link in the first post.
Ok, sorry.

Why do use Stereo Repeat for all busses?
Do you really need this?

That is probably the root of the phasing.

What happens if you use Normal or Mix A or Mix B for the busses?
PoJ
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Re: Weird lisp/tin can sound

Post by PoJ »

RobBoss wrote:
PoJ wrote:Thanks for your reply, I posted my settings in the Imgur link in the first post.
Ok, sorry.

Why do use Stereo Repeat for all busses?
Do you really need this?

That is probably the root of the phasing.

What happens if you use Normal or Mix A or Mix B for the busses?

I have no idea why those were at stereo repeat :? I've put them on normal mode now, will do a recording to see if this was the problem.
Thanks once again!
RobBoss
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Re: Weird lisp/tin can sound

Post by RobBoss »

B2 goes to Twitch?

VB Cable output on HW Strip 2 is used by which application?

Desktop on Virtual Input?
PoJ
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Re: Weird lisp/tin can sound

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RobBoss wrote:
PoJ wrote:Thanks for your reply, I posted my settings in the Imgur link in the first post.
Ok, sorry.

Why do use Stereo Repeat for all busses?
Do you really need this?

That is probably the root of the phasing.

What happens if you use Normal or Mix A or Mix B for the busses?

I feel so stupid right now, that was indeed the problem. You have my eternal gratitude dear Sir
PoJ
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Re: Weird lisp/tin can sound

Post by PoJ »

RobBoss wrote:B2 goes to Twitch?

VB Cable output on HW Strip 2 is used by which application?

Desktop on Virtual Input?
VB cable is used for discord
PoJ
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Re: Weird lisp/tin can sound

Post by PoJ »

RobBoss wrote:B2 goes to Twitch?

VB Cable output on HW Strip 2 is used by which application?

Desktop on Virtual Input?
I dunno man, I watched some YT clips on how to install VM and they did it that way. I'm a total noob with this audio stuff.
RobBoss
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Re: Weird lisp/tin can sound

Post by RobBoss »

PoJ wrote:I have no idea why those were at stereo repeat :?
:? :lol:
Other persons that have access to your computer?
Someone playing games with you by changing your Voicemeeter settings, while you are in the kitchen?

Seriously, I hope we can close this case here.
Sorry, please it is not my intention to be rude, but your answer was a little bit funny.

Best Regards!
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